Suzuki GSX-R 1000 Service Manual: Side-stand / ignition interlock system parts inspection
The immobilizer verifies that the key id agrees with ecm id by means of radio communication through the immobilizer antenna. When the id agreement is verified, the system makes the engine ready to start. When the ignition switch is turned on with the engine stop switch in on, the immobi-antenna and ecm are powered on.
The ecm transmits a signal to the transponder through the immobi-antenna in order to make comparison between the key id and ecm id. With the signal received, the transponder transmits the key id signal to ecm so that ecm can make comparison with its own id, and if it matches, the engine is made ready to start. Also, when the ignition switch is turned on, the indicator light flashes as many as the number of ids registered in ecm. Thereafter, if the ids are in agreement, the indicator light turns on for two seconds to notify of completion in successful communication.
If the indicator light led flashes fast, it notifies of communication error or disagreement of id.Keyless Motorcycle Ignition for under $100!???
In this case, the indicator light operation starts immediately after the starter operation. Instrument panel The fuel indicator light 8,12,13 Lcd's and tachometer needle work as follows to confirm their function when the ignition switch is turned to the "on" position. The fuel indicator light 8,12 and 13 come on for 3 seconds.
All lcd segments display for 3 seconds. Other information considered as generally known is not included. Read the general information section to familiarize yourself with the mot Evap system purge control valve circuit open or short.
Evap system purge control valve malfunction. Ecm malfunction. Manuals New Top Sitemap Search. General description Operation Drive mode is preset at a-mode w Other materials: Instrument panel The fuel indicator light 8,12,13 Lcd's and tachometer needle work as follows to confirm their function when the ignition switch is turned to the "on" position.
Immobilizer antenna Indicator light Transponder Id. Immobilizer antenna Transponder Ignition switch Ecm. Note if the indicator light flashes fast, turn the ignition switch off then on to make judgment again as there is possible misjudgment due to environmental radio interference. Caution when the battery performance is lowered in winter low temperaturethe system may at times makes a re-judgment at the time of beginning the starter motor operation.I didn't realise that so many people out there have bridged out their clutch switches on their Suzuki's so they don't have to pull it in to start the bike.
You shouldn't do it. Tracing the wiring diagram, the clutch switch not only enables the starter relay, but it sends a signal to the ECU as well. Should explain the starting change So if you don't want to run the neutral ignition mapping, don't bridge out the clutch switch unless you do the mod. Here is a short video in windows media format Right click "Save as" kb.
To prove the point, I fooled the ECU that the bike was in 6th gear using a static TRE, I wound the idle up to approximately rpm, then pulled and released the clutch. There is a definite map change depending on the clutch position. I also did it with the bike temperature under 80C as this is when the effect is the greatest.
Maybe I'm wrong, but the ECU definitely does something with the clutch switch signal. Bridge it out if you want, but the ECU is fooled into thinking that the clutch is permanently pulled. There is some reason for the ECU receiving a signal from the clutch switch and it definitely does something with it. Keep reading, the ECU uses the signal for starting as well. If you do this modification, don't blame me if you drop the bike when you try and start it in gear.
I've only put this information up as I think it is a better fix than to just bridge out your clutch switch. Juat leave the clutch switch alone - or do the following mods to keep things working as designed. Although I think if it's too much trouble to pull the clutch switch to start the engine, it'll be too much trouble to do the following recommended modifications.
More than 13 years since the TL was released we're still discovering some simple basic starting tricks Suzuki used on its EFI bikes. This doesn't just apply to the TL, but is the same for other fuel injected Suzuki's, i. The ECU knows the starter is depressed. The starter solenoid coil doesn't energise until the other side of its coil has a ground connection.
This is done via the clutch switch - or if the clutch switch is bridged the ground connection is permanent.
Activating the clutch switch doesn't just ground the starter solenoid coil, it applies a ground signal to the ECU CLT input as mentioned above.
It also expects to 'see' crank and cam sensor pulses, if it doesn't it will throw the code for the missing sensor. Who knows what else the ECU does to the timing and injectors when it knows the engine is being started?
Something for the ECU hackers to discover. If the clutch switch input is disconnected from the ECU, it doesn't know you're trying to start the engine and if there is a faulty crank sensor, the ECU can't tell you as it doesn't know it should be expecting it.
The cam position sensor may or may not wake the ECU up into realising the crank signal is missing. The ECU will turn the fuel pump on when it detects the crank sensor pulse - but the men in white coats though it was best to start the pump as soon as you try and start the engine, not when it is already turning over.
End of story. Here is a solution as designed and drawn up by D'Ecosse who is an active member on several forums.My buddy has a ninja and I have a ninja his little brother got ahold of the keys and broke his key off my ignition tried to get the key out wouldn't come so I decided to try and hot wire it dumb idea I know that you need a ohm resistor somewhere in the ignition system but I can't figure out how to I get the bike to turn over without the resistor but won't crank how do you wire the resistor into the ignition system.
Any help is needed thanks. Originally Posted by JarodVoss. Was going to start a thread on this as there is 20 threads that didn't quite conclude as to the ohm bridging 2 wires. My race bike has a loose ignition I think the shear bolts are butchered or loose. What are the racers using for a switch n the US? Name: J. Emmett Turner. I've seen Chinese replicas of the ignition cylinders and gas caps with new keys different key design so hang on to the old one for the other locks.
I bought the replica gas cap. It mounts under the triple the same way but the triple doesn't surround it on the F-series. Example: "Installed F -sprocket on a J -bike" Works with other models too! Originally Posted by Aufitt. Reason: adding PS information. Originally Posted by HotRedTurbo. I wired my racebike to use a switch. The information is in the service manual electrical wiring diagram.
Well, except the ohm resistor part. The resistor is in the ignition from the igniter side gray I believe. When turning on the ignition switch, it is positioned in series with a 12V source 2 White wires. You also need the regulator wire seeing a 12V source when on.
If you want to do this mod, I would recommend getting a switch with an LED, just to make sure you have 12V when turned on.
I did just incase something goes wrong at the track it'll help me troubleshoot faster ie: bike is not turning on and LED is not turning on means there's no voltage. I'm working now but I'll try to go home and take pix during lunch, which is very soon. PS: When in doubt, ohm it out. Cut all wires to ignition switch and start ohming out every combination of paired wires possible with position ON of course. You'll find which 2 wires it is that way. Originally Posted by garth So I'm having to replace the ignition switch on my bike.
I know I have to drill the security bolts out and if I buy an aftermarket switch I need to wire in a ohm resistor. Which wire do I install it on with the new switch, or does someone know of an aftermarket switch that doesn't need a resistor. My other question is about the bolts. When I drill them out, what kind of bolts should I use to install the new switch.
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HaVoCDec 19, All Pm's Returned. HaVoCDec 22, New Yr bump HaVoCJan 1, Pm'd Back. HaVoCJan 2, Have you verified this works with the GSXR ? I just did this to mine GSXR and it would not start if it was wired as pictured.
HaVoCJan 3, So I know nothing about wiring up a keyless ignition. Is there a plug connected to the ignition and you just unplug one end and swap it with this switch? Any other modification to the bike required?
PatFitz9Jan 3, Pretty slick. Does the ignition need to be removed? Can you just bypass it but leave it looking stock? Then why buy the switch?Do not pass it over the harness.
Pass the wiring harness no. Place the small coupler inside and the big one outside. Pass the right handlebar switch lead wire above the ignition switch lead wire. Do not twist the wiring harness.
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Apply bond. For e, 19, 24, 51 For e, 28 For e, Inspect the radiator reservoir tank 1 for leaks. If any defects are found, replace the radiator reservoir tank Throttle body removal and installation Removal Remove the side cowlings. Remove the air cleaner box. Remove the clamps 1. Disconnect the iap sensor 2 from the vacuum Cooling circuit inspection Do not open the radiator cap when the engine is hot, as you may be injured by escaping hot liquid or vapor.
When removing the radiator cap tester, put a rag on the filler to prevent the engine coolant from spraying out. Inspect the cooling Manuals New Top Sitemap Search. Specifications Service data Electrical Tightening torque specifications Note the specified tightening torque is described in the following. Wiring harness no. Place the turn signal and position light couplers in front of the clamp. Steel clamp : clamp the wiring harness at the blue taping point.
Bend the steel clamps to the front side. Clamp: face the clamp end upward. Take care not pinch the position light lead wires between the headlight assembly and cowling brace.Discussion in ' Tech ' started by wjshupakMar 8, Log in or Sign up.
I did the job on '04 GSX-R yesterday, and here is inside the ignition : We can clearly see that ohms resistor.
If you have question just PM or email me, or I'll probably retype later a full procedure for Have fun!
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Zach steelman likes this. With the resistor in place, the ECU sees a lower voltage and will turn the fuel pump on. I have pm People left and Right as off last Week and no response.
Wiring is different from these instructions. I have the resistors along with the Wiring cut up ready to go. Can anyone Help?????
I have an Event this Weekend end i would like to attend! MarsOct 6, OK so I did the by pass and it worked fine till yesterday!!!!!!!! I switched to a new battery and turned on the machine and no fuel pump or butterfly valves, DANG! So below is my steps I did I switched back to the old battery and still no fuel pump Check the by pass wiring see photo Turned it on and switched the gears to make sure it was not in gear verified the kickstand was up Checked the fuel pump fuse Checked the main fuse at the positive battery lead Made sure that the tipover senor was mounted upright If it helps at all I have a Bazazz, lightweight battery and this bypass for the key are the only electrical items done to the stock machine.
Thanks Rich. RichMangusFeb 13, RichMangusFeb 19, Do you have any photos of what you did? Thanks for the write up. U can buy one of these. Take your oem ign off and install it. HavocDec 23, Daniel06Dec 23, I would also wire all the leads and not just the three in all the diagrams. I know my 07 would not start without all 5 wires connected.
So the constant 12V wire red does not have the resistor soldered to it? The orange wire is switched 12v. After a couple days my battery was dead. I changed it to the orange wire from red, battery stays charged.
No stock pieces at all. Alot of the info I found when doing this, was that people were having parastic draw. So, as an update, I now have diagnosed the fault as a c42 c42 - Ignition switch signal circuit malfunction. Not sure if this helps diagnose.
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Suzuki GSX-R 1000 Service Manual: Immobilizer description (for e-02, 19, 24, 51)
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